What Therapists Know About Change That Pastors Need
Therapists deal with the same thing pastors do: people who want to be different but keep doing the same things. What the clinical world has learned about how change actually happens is something every pastor needs.
The therapeutic tradition — specifically the research-based understanding of how human beings actually change — has insights that are directly applicable to pastoral ministry and largely absent from pastoral formation. The pastor who understands how change actually works will preach differently, counsel differently, make different decisions about programming and community formation, and have different expectations about the timeline and the process of genuine transformation in the people they lead.
The most important insight from the research on human change is that genuine behavioral and character change is almost never produced by information alone. People do not change primarily because they learn something new — they change when new information is combined with specific relational conditions, emotional experience, and repeated behavioral practice over time. This finding undermines the informational model of ministry that organizes most Sunday preaching and much pastoral counseling, and it has profound implications for how the church thinks about its formation work.
The Stages of Change
James Prochaska and Carlo DiClemente's transtheoretical model of change — developed from the study of how people change addictive behavior but applicable far more broadly — describes a predictable progression of stages through which people move when genuine change occurs: pre-contemplation, contemplation, preparation, action, maintenance, and the possibility of relapse. The model's insight that is most practically useful for pastors is the recognition that different stages require different kinds of support. Confrontational approaches that work for people in the preparation stage tend to be counterproductive for people in the pre-contemplation stage, driving them toward defensiveness and away from the change that is being invited.
"People do not change primarily because they learn something new — they change when new information is combined with specific relational conditions, emotional experience, and repeated behavioral practice over time."
Motivational Interviewing and the Pastoral Conversation
The therapeutic technique of motivational interviewing — developed specifically for use with people who are ambivalent about change — offers a set of conversational practices that are extraordinarily applicable to pastoral counseling and to preaching. The fundamental insight of motivational interviewing is that ambivalence about change is normal, and that the most effective way to resolve ambivalence in the direction of change is not confrontation or persuasion but the careful elicitation of the person's own motivation for change. The pastor who has internalized this insight asks different questions, uses a different kind of listening, and produces different outcomes in pastoral conversations than the pastor who relies primarily on exhortation.
The application to preaching is equally direct. Sermons that invite the congregation into a process of genuine self-reflection — that ask good questions more than they deliver good answers, that create the conditions under which the congregation might discover their own motivation for change — tend to produce more genuine and more lasting change than sermons that primarily argue for the right conclusion. This is not the abandonment of proclamation. It is the enrichment of proclamation with the insights about how human beings actually change that the therapeutic tradition has worked so hard to understand.
The Deeper Principle at Work
There is a pattern that appears across every domain where human beings pursue meaningful growth: the things that matter most are rarely the most visible. The foundation is not what people see. The foundation is what holds up what people see.
In ministry, the invisible work is the work of prayer, study, honest self-examination, and sustained relationship. In marriage, the invisible work is the ten thousand small acts of attention that either build or erode the bond over time. In leadership, the invisible work is the character development that produces integrity when things get hard.
Investing in that invisible work is not glamorous. It doesn't produce content. It doesn't build a platform. But it produces the kind of person — and the kind of leader, pastor, and spouse — whose public work is sustained by something real.
Why This Is Harder Than It Used to Be
The attention economy has fundamentally changed the conditions under which meaningful formation happens. Every platform is designed to reward output, performance, and presence — and to make the absence of those things feel like failure or irrelevance.
This creates a specific kind of pressure on pastoral and leadership formation: the pressure to be constantly producing rather than consistently growing. The irony is that the leaders who produce the most enduring fruit are almost always the ones who have resisted that pressure long enough to be genuinely formed — rather than merely perpetually active.
Building resistance to that pressure requires community, intentionality, and a theology of hiddenness: the conviction that what happens in private, over years, without audience, matters more than most of what happens publicly.
Next Steps
Begin with one honest conversation you have been avoiding. Not the hardest one — the next one. Progress in meaningful growth rarely happens through the most dramatic act. It happens through the next necessary one.
Find one practice — sabbath, spiritual direction, a peer group, a daily prayer rhythm — that you currently describe as a goal and have not yet made a non-negotiable. Make it non-negotiable this month. Not because it will immediately change everything, but because the act of making it non-negotiable is itself a formation practice.
And hold both the urgency and the patience together. The work is urgent. The formation is slow. These are not contradictions. They are the rhythm of a life faithfully lived.
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James Bell
Lead Teaching Pastor at First Baptist Church in Fenton, Michigan, and founder of the Pastors Connection Network. For over 15 years, James has served in full-time ministry—planting churches, leading revitalization efforts, and consulting with pastors and ministry leaders across the country. Out of his own seasons of burnout and isolation, he founded the Pastors Connection Network, a growing community of leaders committed to gospel-centered relationships and long-term faithfulness in ministry.